{"id":110187,"date":"2020-01-17T12:00:00","date_gmt":"2020-01-17T12:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.mafr.fr\/actualites\/lavocat-porteur-de-conviction-dans-le-nouveau-droi-2\/"},"modified":"2026-09-23T12:25:54","modified_gmt":"2026-09-23T12:25:54","slug":"attorney-vector-of-conviction-in-the-new","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.mafr.fr\/en\/publications\/working-papers\/attorney-vector-of-conviction-in-the-new\/","title":{"rendered":"The attorney, vector of conviction in the new Compliance system"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Compliance is sometimes denied as even constituting legal mechanisms&nbsp;. It would only be a brutal weapon, often launched from abroad<sup class=\"mafr-note\" data-note=\"1\"><a href=\"#\" role=\"button\" aria-expanded=\"false\" aria-describedby=\"mafr-note-110187-1\">1<\/a><\/sup><span class=\"mafr-note__texte\" id=\"mafr-note-110187-1\" role=\"tooltip\" tabindex=\"-1\">This is particularly stated with regard to American Law,&nbsp; in particular its&nbsp;Compliance Law applied in banking and financial sector or in matters of embargo.<br \/><br \/>\n\nFor more developments on this point and the related technical references, see. Frison-Roche, M.-A., <a href=\"\/publications\/documents-de-travail\/compliance-et-extraterritorialite-un-couple-nature\/\"><em>Compliance and extraterritoriality: a natural and efficient couple for the future of Europe<\/em><\/a>, 2020.<\/span>, covered with ethical sugar. It would therefore be naive&nbsp;to believe in Compliance Law<sup class=\"mafr-note\" data-note=\"2\"><a href=\"#\" role=\"button\" aria-expanded=\"false\" aria-describedby=\"mafr-note-110187-2\">2<\/a><\/sup><span class=\"mafr-note__texte\" id=\"mafr-note-110187-2\" role=\"tooltip\" tabindex=\"-1\">On the idea that those who defend Compliance Law are victims of their own naivety, s. for example, the report named &quot;Gauvain written for &quot;Restorer the Sovereignthy of France and Europe and protect the French and European Companies from extraterritorrial regulations&nbsp;<a href=\"\/ressources\/thesaurus\/thesaurus-autres\/droit-souple\/retablir-la-souverainete-de-la-france-et-de-leurop\/\">(rapport pour&nbsp;<em>R&eacute;tablir la souverainet&eacute; de la France et de l&#39;Europe et prot&eacute;ger nos entreprise&nbsp; des lois et mesures &agrave; port&eacute;e extraterritoriale&nbsp;<\/em><\/a>, 2019.<\/span> &#8230; Under its big words, Continental Law would not be there<sup class=\"mafr-note\" data-note=\"3\"><a href=\"#\" role=\"button\" aria-expanded=\"false\" aria-describedby=\"mafr-note-110187-3\">3<\/a><\/sup><span class=\"mafr-note__texte\" id=\"mafr-note-110187-3\" role=\"tooltip\" tabindex=\"-1\">Because initially conceived in the banking and financial sector, and in the United States, it is very often allegued that&nbsp;Compliance mechanisms could not be exported (even in good faith) outside neither these sectors nor this country - with its legal system which is his. For a more nuanced&nbsp; point ofview, see. Frison-Roche, M.-A. <a href=\"\/publications\/documents-de-travail\/compliance-avant-maintenant-apress\/\">Compliance: before, now, after<\/a>, 2017, and the references cited.<\/span>. More so, its&nbsp;destruction would be the goal! Well-informed, even called to the rescue<sup class=\"mafr-note\" data-note=\"4\"><a href=\"#\" role=\"button\" aria-expanded=\"false\" aria-describedby=\"mafr-note-110187-4\">4<\/a><\/sup><span class=\"mafr-note__texte\" id=\"mafr-note-110187-4\" role=\"tooltip\" tabindex=\"-1\">The attorney thus being, in particular with the auditor, among the many experts with whom the company self-organized for&nbsp;understanding and mastering the&nbsp;Compliance system which has melted on it .... See on this <a href=\"\/activites\/organisation-de-manifestations-scientifiques\/5-mars-2020-conference-jorc-les-expertises-impliqu\/\">question of &quot;required expertise&quot; in the Ex Ante of Compliance &quot;, conference of January 29, 2020 organized by the <em>Journal of Regulation &amp; Compliance<\/em><\/a>.<\/span>, the attorney then appears&nbsp;in defense&nbsp;of businesses and of our entire legal system, bruised by&nbsp;Compliance. In this new war between systems, the lawyer should choose its side. Either Civil Law or Common Law&hellip;; either Companies&nbsp;or Regulators &#8230;<\/p>\n<p>Defined as company&#39;s protector forced to attack itself, the attorney is placed in defense. Is it&nbsp;the most suitable position for him?<\/p>\n<p>If we look at Compliance tools &#8211; risk mapping<sup class=\"mafr-note\" data-note=\"5\"><a href=\"#\" role=\"button\" aria-expanded=\"false\" aria-describedby=\"mafr-note-110187-5\">5<\/a><\/sup><span class=\"mafr-note__texte\" id=\"mafr-note-110187-5\" role=\"tooltip\" tabindex=\"-1\">Frison-Roche, M.-A.,<a href=\"\/publications\/documents-de-travail\/en-quoi-la-cartographie-des-risques-est-elle-un-ou\/\">&nbsp;<em>Legal theory of Risk Mapping, center of Compliance Law<\/em><\/a>, 2020.&nbsp;<\/span>, investor communication, staff training, concretization of the company&#39;s <em>raison d&#39;&ecirc;tre<\/em> &#8211; where is this fighter?<\/p>\n<p>In this structural Law of&nbsp;Information<sup class=\"mafr-note\" data-note=\"6\"><a href=\"#\" role=\"button\" aria-expanded=\"false\" aria-describedby=\"mafr-note-110187-6\">6<\/a><\/sup><span class=\"mafr-note__texte\" id=\"mafr-note-110187-6\" role=\"tooltip\" tabindex=\"-1\">Information that we can &quot;trust&quot;, the Compliance mechanisms being linked to the phenomenon of Trust (public good).<br \/><br \/>\n\nOn this more general theme, see. Frison-Roche, M.-A., <a href=\"\/publications\/documents-de-travail\/compliance-et-confiance\/\">Compliance and Trust<\/a>, 2017.<\/span>, the handling of litigation would then only be a sort of after-sales service for Compliance deployed in Ex Ante, when unfortunately&nbsp;a failure is noted; the attorney is well placed upstream since he is the one who, downstream<sup class=\"mafr-note\" data-note=\"7\"><a href=\"#\" role=\"button\" aria-expanded=\"false\" aria-describedby=\"mafr-note-110187-7\">7<\/a><\/sup><span class=\"mafr-note__texte\" id=\"mafr-note-110187-7\" role=\"tooltip\" tabindex=\"-1\">Since in strategy we always navigate in anticipation from upstream to downstream and by the memory of downstream to upstream, since the judge is by nature a central figure in Compliance Law, the attorney, inseparable of the judge,&nbsp;occupies <em>de jure&nbsp;<\/em>the same place there. V. Frison-Roche, M.-A., <a href=\"\/publications\/documents-de-travail\/entreprise-regulateur-juge-etau-de-la-compliance-o\/\"><em>Company, Regulator, Judge: thinking about Compliance by these three characters<\/em><\/a>, 2018, and the references cited.<\/span>, will limit consequences of a default. War figure, he will therefore be able to implement peace strategies with the prosecutor, his interlocutor.<\/p>\n<p>Is it only that? Isn&#39;t this even very derogatory for Compliance techniques, since it means that Compliance Law postulates litigation? Taking&nbsp;this pathology for granted and resigning yourself to it. Legalizing&nbsp;the business&#39; operation. Standing against each other<sup class=\"mafr-note\" data-note=\"8\"><a href=\"#\" role=\"button\" aria-expanded=\"false\" aria-describedby=\"mafr-note-110187-8\">8<\/a><\/sup><span class=\"mafr-note__texte\" id=\"mafr-note-110187-8\" role=\"tooltip\" tabindex=\"-1\">As it is&nbsp;<em>de facto<\/em> postulated for the&nbsp;the character of the &quot;whistleblower&quot; who is placed on the chessboard of Compliance mechanisms, either by recognition of its virtue, or by recognition of its effectiveness. This way of emergence of information is not at all the same for the attorney, who by tradition is both the person of the debate but also of the secret. V. Frison-Roche, M.-A., <a href=\"\/publications\/documents-de-travail\/la-categorie-des-lanceurs-dalertes\/\">The Impossible Legal Unity of the Whistleblower Category<\/a>, 2020.<\/span>.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align:center\">______<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Let&rsquo;s take another perspective. If we consider that the company is not only a space of decision and control but also of debates before these new judges who are the investors, the consumers, the public opinion &#8211; henceforth global -, then we need attorneys. Permanently, in peacetime and in a structural way. No longer in a defense reduced to the aggressor&#39;s aggression, but in a contradictory debate. Principle of contradictory and Attorney<sup class=\"mafr-note\" data-note=\"9\"><a href=\"#\" role=\"button\" aria-expanded=\"false\" aria-describedby=\"mafr-note-110187-9\">9<\/a><\/sup><span class=\"mafr-note__texte\" id=\"mafr-note-110187-9\" role=\"tooltip\" tabindex=\"-1\">Frison-Roche, M.-A.,&nbsp;<em><a href=\"\/publications\/ouvrages\/generalites-sur-le-principe-du-contradictoire-droi\/\">G&eacute;n&eacute;ralit&eacute;s sur le principe du contradictoire. Etude de droit processuel<\/a>,<\/em> 1988.<\/span>, a couple which&nbsp;has always been natural.<\/p>\n<p>In an operation by debate, the attorney retains his primary quality there: he knows that he does not decide, that he never imposes, that he must always convince. And this weakness here constitutes its strength.<\/p>\n<p>Certainly many would like to insert Compliance into machines so-called &quot;learning&quot; and &quot;intelligent&quot;, which store information and correlate it. The technique of &ldquo;regulation by data&rdquo; supposes that machines could &ldquo;automatically decide&rdquo;<sup class=\"mafr-note\" data-note=\"10\"><a href=\"#\" role=\"button\" aria-expanded=\"false\" aria-describedby=\"mafr-note-110187-10\">10<\/a><\/sup><span class=\"mafr-note__texte\" id=\"mafr-note-110187-10\" role=\"tooltip\" tabindex=\"-1\">See&nbsp;in this sense&nbsp;the numerous works of &quot;gray literature&quot; issued by regulators. For example the<a href=\"http:\/\/www.bankofengland.co.uk\/-\/media\/boe\/files\/paper\/2020\/transforming-data-collection-from-the-uk-financial-sector.pdf?la=en&amp;hash=6E6132B4F7AF681CCB425B0171B4CF43D82E7779\"> document published jointly by the Financial Conduct Authority and the Bank of England in January 2020<\/a>&nbsp;<\/span>. Algorithms would make the compliance programs while other series of figures would deduce the new rules to follow.<\/p>\n<p>In this mechanical future of Compliance, there is no need to understand the rules. Only obedience would be required<sup class=\"mafr-note\" data-note=\"11\"><a href=\"#\" role=\"button\" aria-expanded=\"false\" aria-describedby=\"mafr-note-110187-11\">11<\/a><\/sup><span class=\"mafr-note__texte\" id=\"mafr-note-110187-11\" role=\"tooltip\" tabindex=\"-1\">When it&#39;is only question to obeying, that is to say bending, there is no longer any need for ethics, since Ethics consists in standing straight.<br \/><br \/>\n\nCompliance mechanisms, in their close link with Ethics and Responsibility, assume that people who have power &quot;(tone from the top&quot;) stand upright. In this, they stem more from a logic of conviction, personal and towards others, than blind obedience.<br \/><br \/>\n\nSee in this sense, Frison-Roche, M.-A., <a href=\"\/publications\/documents-de-travail\/se-tenir-bien-dans-lespace-numerique-2\/\"><em>Have a good behavior in the digital space<\/em><\/a>, 2019, and the references cited.<\/span>. Chinese Compliance Law accommodates this. No need for an attorney. Nobody needed<sup class=\"mafr-note\" data-note=\"12\"><a href=\"#\" role=\"button\" aria-expanded=\"false\" aria-describedby=\"mafr-note-110187-12\">12<\/a><\/sup><span class=\"mafr-note__texte\" id=\"mafr-note-110187-12\" role=\"tooltip\" tabindex=\"-1\">While the notion of &quot;person&quot; is unbreakable from&nbsp;Compliance mechanisms. See in this sense Frison-Roche, M.-A., <a href=\"\/publications\/documents-de-travail\/compliance-et-personnalite\/\"><em>Compliance and Personality<\/em><\/a>, 2020, et the references cited.<\/span> in a blind compliance&nbsp;system &#8230;<\/p>\n<p>If we think on the contrary that the purpose of Compliance Law is to entrust the company with the task of ensuring the protection of human beings in their environment<sup class=\"mafr-note\" data-note=\"13\"><a href=\"#\" role=\"button\" aria-expanded=\"false\" aria-describedby=\"mafr-note-110187-13\">13<\/a><\/sup><span class=\"mafr-note__texte\" id=\"mafr-note-110187-13\" role=\"tooltip\" tabindex=\"-1\">On the conception of Compliance Law putting human beings at the heart of Compliance mechanisms, c. Frison-Roche, M.-A., <a href=\"\/publications\/documents-de-travail\/ce-que-le-droit-de-la-compliance-peut-soffrir-en-p\/\">A Substantial Compliance Law, based on the European humanist tradition<\/a>, 2019, and the references cited.&nbsp;<\/span>, then in this, more political,&nbsp;humanist conception,&nbsp;people have to convince others of companies&#39; actions&#39; merits with regard to the concrete goals they have the function of achieving in the long term. Convincing&nbsp;in the company and convincing&nbsp;third parties<sup class=\"mafr-note\" data-note=\"14\"><a href=\"#\" role=\"button\" aria-expanded=\"false\" aria-describedby=\"mafr-note-110187-14\">14<\/a><\/sup><span class=\"mafr-note__texte\" id=\"mafr-note-110187-14\" role=\"tooltip\" tabindex=\"-1\">&quot;Conviction&quot; becomes decisive, even outside of the courtroom, when Compliance mechanisms, beyond constraint, are articulated with incentive techniques. V. Frison-Roche, M.-A., <a href=\"\/publications\/documents-de-travail\/compliance-et-incitation-sont-ils-contradictoires\/\">Compliance and incentives: a couple to propel<\/a>, 2020, and the references cited.&nbsp;<\/span>.<\/p>\n<p>These &quot;vectors of conviction&quot;, who know how to have&nbsp;no power and who take effective care of others, are traditionally and ultimately the attorneys. Today the concern for others is the &quot;monumental goal&quot;<sup class=\"mafr-note\" data-note=\"15\"><a href=\"#\" role=\"button\" aria-expanded=\"false\" aria-describedby=\"mafr-note-110187-15\">15<\/a><\/sup><span class=\"mafr-note__texte\" id=\"mafr-note-110187-15\" role=\"tooltip\" tabindex=\"-1\">On the conception of Compliance Law putting human beings at the heart of Compliance mechanisms, this&nbsp;&quot;monumental goal&quot; being an integral part of the very definition of Compliance Law, defined in a no procedural way but in a substantial conception, s.&nbsp;Frison-Roche, <em><a href=\"\/publications\/documents-de-travail\/le-droit-de-la-compliance\/\">Compliance Law,<\/a>&nbsp;<\/em>2016 ; <a href=\"\/publications\/documents-de-travail\/ce-que-le-droit-de-la-compliance-peut-soffrir-en-p\/\"><em>A Substantial Compliance Law, based on the European humanist traditio<\/em>n<\/a>, 2019.<\/span>&nbsp;of Compliance Law.<\/p>\n<p>The attorney must therefore be at the first place.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align:center\">_______<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<hr class=\"mafr-notes-sep\">\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Compliance is sometimes denied as even constituting legal mechanisms&nbsp;. 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